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Chapter Four Responses

Post by SamZiegler on Fri May 26, 2017 12:44 pm

Vocabulary and Text Structure
Why may the author have chosen one word over another?
On page 59, Golding wrote, "But otherwise, they seldom bothered with the biguns and their passionately emotional and corporate life was their own." He uses the word corporate in this sentence to show that the lifestyle is shared by the whole group, but he could have just used the word shared instead. I believe Golding used the word corporate because when you think of corporate, you think of businesses and professional lifestyles, which is exactly the opposite of how life is on the island. I believe that this is done to create a contrast, which really shows how far the boys are from a normal, civilized life. Golding could not have made this effect if he used a word like shared in that place, which is why i think he chose corporate.
Key Details
Are there any shifts or patterns in the writing? Look for the signal words and phrases?
In chapter four, the tone of the story really begins to shift from one of innocence and fun to one of anger and animosity. This happen, in particular, during the argument between Ralph, Piggy, and Jack, over the signal fire going out while the hunters were hunting. The divide in the tribe is clear now, as Jack is in a powerful position with the support of the hunters. When Piggy attempts to point out Jack's wrongdoing, Jack punches him and breaks his specs, which is the first violence that we see happen on the island. Jack then goes on to describe the killing of the pig, and it is easy to see how much he enjoyed it. Ralph cuts him off, pointing out that they could have been rescued by the ship that had passed by. Jack, now in a bad position, attempts to get out of it by apologizing about the fire. The tribe applauds Jack's "decency", while Ralph sees through it. When Ralph doesn't respond, the hunters believe he is in the wrong, and this creates that animosity that never goes away between them.
Golding uses the title, Painted Faces and Long Hair, for chapter four. This is done to show how far the boys are from being civilized, like they were when they arrived. They have only been on the island for a couple of days, and yet they are already becoming savages. The war paint and long hair both belong to the hunters, who are the ones that have become the most savage, killing a pig and enjoying it. This really puts the transformation right in the reader's face, from proper, civilized English boys in chapter one, to savage hunters in chapter four.
Word Study:
Dubious (pg. 59) The decrease in size, from Ralph down, was gradual; and though there was a dubious region inhabited by Simon and Robert and Maurice, nevertheless no one had any difficulty in recognizing biguns at one end and littluns at the other.
If something is dubious, it is not to be relied on.
The child gave dubious rules to the babysitter.
Belligerence (pg. 60) Percival was mouse-colored and had not been very attractive even to his mother; Johnny was well build, with fair hair and a natural belligerence.
If someone is belligerent, they are hostile and aggressive.
The toll booth attendant was belligerent with me.
Lashings (pg. 69) "There was lashings of blood," said Jack, laughing and shuddering, "you should have seen it!"
If there are lashings of something, there is a lot of it.
There were many pizzas, with lashings of cheese.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by aya on Sun May 28, 2017 7:02 pm

1) Key details – are there any shifts or patterns in the writing? Look for signal words and phrases.
- On page 59, the chapter began as light and fun. The smaller boys were playing at the beach and everyone was having fun. The first shift happened on page 62, when roger started throwing stones at Henry, one of the smaller boys. It’s like he had an intention of hurting him. He realized that there was no one to stop him from doing bad things, no grown-ups. He seemed like a dark person that wanted to hurt. Then the writing shifted yet again to Ralph and piggy and Simon, it was also a light situation until they noticed a boat that could’ve rescued them. Then jack came back all proud of the pig he killed. This chapter shifted from light, to dark to light and then to dark once again. Like it says on page 58, “strange things happened at midday.”
2) Author’s purpose – from whose point of view is the text told? 1st person? 3rd person limited/omniscient?
- The text is told in 3rd person limited because the author doesn’t write the thoughts of the characters. On page 63, it says, “he peered at his reflection and disliked it.” It shows the feelings of characters through an outside look instead of going inside the characters mind to find out. He disliked his reflection because of his face expressions. I think the author chose third person limited because if we knew the thoughts of each character than there wouldn’t be anything left for us to think about. We would know why jack is so intent on killing a pig. Why roger wanted to hurt everyone. And why the smaller kids think there’s a monster.
This chapter is called “Painted Faces and Long Hair” because the hunters painted their faces so they wouldn’t scare off the pig when they catch it. And they also had long hair. Their painted faces and long hair gave off a dark look that showed their true self’s.
1) Impalpable (61) – something that is impalpable is unable to be felt by touch.
- With impalpable organs of sense they examined this new field.
2) Preposterous (62) – something that is preposterous is contrary to reason or common sense; utterly absurd or ridiculous.
- The stone that token of preposterous time bounced five yards to henry's right and fell in the water.
3) Liberated (64) – if you’re liberated, you are showing freedom from social conventions or traditional ideas.
- Behind which jack hid, liberated from shame and self-consciousness.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by its.amy.13 on Sun May 28, 2017 11:17 pm

Key Details
Are there any nuances in meaning?
Pg.68 Simon looks from Ralph to Jack uneasily. Simon knows that there is going to be some trouble between the two even before anything really bad starts. The two boys are complete opposites of each other. One is a complete image with his bold looks, leadership skills, and his way of communicating reason throughout the children. The other one is slightly less appealing, and can't communicate about anything to anyone, and is rash in how he goes about his actions. The two boys go head and head at each other. Pg.68 the children-Ralph, Simon, Piggy, and Maurice- went to try to get the boat's attention with the burnt out fire. Ralph yells,"Come back! Come back!" But the ship is gone and the fire was not lit. I think there might be an alternative meaning to this. The boat gave those few boys false hope. They thought if only they could have gotten to the fire to light it fast enough, if only the fire was already lit, if only the boat had stayed a little longer, then the children would have been saved. They could have been rescued, and gotten to go back home to their family. But the whole reason they were on the island was because of the war going on around their community. That's why they were evacuated into the planes, but then shot down by the enemy. It might have meant that once they did get rescued they would have no where to live, but if the boat had seen them it could possibly have been an enemy ship, who were trying to make sure no one lived after the accident. Pg.64 it mentions that Piggy's hair hasn't grown like the other boys. It seems to me that it might mean that Piggy is actually sick. Asthma might not be the only condition Piggy has. We all know that he can't catch is breath very well and he's not keen on social signals. That might be due to his Aunt not like letting him out of the house based on his condition. His hair hasn't grown at all while the other boys' hair has, he wears glasses that old men probably wear, he's not up for much of what the other boys are doing (maybe because of his energy level...?).

Chapter 4- Painted faces and long hair. I think he named this chapter that because of Jack deciding that once the paint was on his face he could finally be who he really wanted to be. The long hair on the other hand might mean that the boys have been on the island longer than they expected to be, and it has given enough them time for the boys to grow out the once short hair.

1. Incursion(61)-"Perhaps food had appeared where at the last incursion there had been none."
an invasion or attack, especially a sudden or brief one.
2. Impalpable(61)-"With impalpable organs of sense they examined this new field."
unable to be felt by touch.
3. Tacitly(65)-"There had grown up tacitly among the biguns the opinion that Piggy was outsider."
in a way that is understood or implied without being directly stated.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by MichaelNguyenPer4 on Mon May 29, 2017 9:29 am

Vocabulary & Text Structure
When is figurative language used and to what effect?
(58) "The first rhythm that they became used to was the slow swing from dawn to quick dusk. They accepted the pleasures of morning, the bright sun, the whelming sea and sweet air, as a time when play was good and life so full that hope was not necessary and therefore forgotten. Toward noon, as the floods of light fell more nearly to the perpendicular, the stark colors..." This passage is a foreshadowing a previous seen when they first discovered this flower and Jack savagely cut through some to show that they were useless just because they couldn’t be used as food. However, Simon had been in awe and hadn’t touched them thus showing his respect for the beauty of the island that the other characters just seem to ignore and this scene shows the flowers opening up to Simon perhaps as a show of respect but also to show that in the end the island isnt’t there’s and mother nature possesses it all.
Inferences
Where does the text leave matters uncertain or unstated?
At this point, it still remains uncertain whether or not the beast actually exists. In any case, the beast is one of the most important symbols in the novel.
Why did Goldberg titled the fourth chapter "Painted Faces and Long Hair"?
This is the beginning of when Jack wants to separate from Ralph and his group to create if own. Also Jack is a hunter like his group now disguising with painted faces. Not only does there seem to a split of motives, but we also see a more radical conflict emerging: one of good vs evil, and society vs savagery.
Errant (68) "...something to do with the bundle that the errant twins carried so carefully."
Definiton - deviating from the regular or proper course; erring; straying
Sentence - If someone was very errant, then better keep a eye on him or her.
Grimace (69) "He noticed blood on his hands and grimaced distastefully."
Defintion - a facial expression, often ugly or contorted, that indicates disapproval, pain, etc
Sentence - After you fell, you gave a grimace of pain.
Obscure (72) "...right by his generous apology and Ralph, obscurely, in the wrong."
Defintion - not clear to the understanding; hard to perceive
Sentence - If you are in a obscure state, then I'll jump in to explain it for you.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by BrandonN on Mon May 29, 2017 11:23 am

Key Details
Are there any shifts or patterns in the writing?
In chapter 4 at the beganing there are kids playing in the water enjoying their time. Meanwhile towards the end jack and his hunters let the fire go out then there is a huge argument between Jack and Ralph about how they could of been saved. At the end when Ralph gives no response, Jack seems to have all the power where everyone sides with him and put Ralph in the wrong. At this point is when the group really splits at the end Ralph calls a meeting where it seems like they will choose sides.
 Inferences
Where does the text leave matters uncertain or unstated?
In chapter 4 the beast has not shown its self or even has been brought up. All the boys have been to busy either playing, hunting, or fighting to worry about the beast, we still have no clue if this "beast" is real or not. The beast is the symbol for their fear and if they find out its not real their fear may fade.
 "Painted faces and Long Hair" is used for the chapter 4 title because in this chapter Jack who seems to only want to hunt and is showing his true self while putting paint on his face to disguise himself. The long hair shows that the boys have been on the island for much longer then expected.
 Word Study:
blundered (pg.64) he fell silent and blundered away through the bushes.
Is someone blundered they make a stupid or careless mistake.
Everyone will make many blunders in their life.
procession (pg.69) Yet as the words became audible, the procession reached the steepest
Is something procession its a number of people or vehicles moving forward in an orderly fashion.
Parades have a long procession.
envious (pg.75) Ralph watched them, envious and resentful.
Is someone is showing their envious they are feeling or showing envy.
I'm envious of their happiness.

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Chapter 4

Post by MNguyen23 on Mon May 29, 2017 2:42 pm

Vocabulary text Structure
When is Figurative language used and to what effect?
On pg 58 there is an example of personification " at midday the illusions merged into the sky and there the sun gazed down like an angry eye". This explains that the sun was given an angry thought like a human due to the angry dream or mirage. Basically how the author described different thoughts of dreams of mirage.

Authors purpose
From whose point of view is the text told?
The text is described in third person omni because the author doesn't reveal any uses of I's or character thoughts. On pg 60 the author describe Johnnys hair as a natural belliegrance. Which shows he is being described in an outside/opinion look instead of in reality.
This chapter is called painted faces by how the boys were on the island too long- longer than expected and which they had time to grow their hair.

Vocabulary

Incursion: an invasion or attack
Blundered: stupid or careless mistake
Dubious: to not rely upon

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by Karen P on Mon May 29, 2017 8:35 pm

Inferences:
• Whose story/perspective is not represented?
I think Roger's respective is not presented on purpose to leave a mysterious atmosphere that questions reader why.
Why would Golding make this kid so mysterious? Since we know that evil is supposed to be presented through Roger we can easily assume ideas about this topic; but why mysterious? That's odd, just as how evil people is looked by: odd and distant from others two things that we see Roger since we never see him getting along with someone.
Opinions, Arguments, Intertextual Connections:
What questions does this text left unanswered/unexamined and that may be worthy the of being researched?
What is Rogers condition after all? Because he seems to have a mental health problem, Since he's supposed to represent evil the people born with, that is supposed to be somehow related with a health issue i guess. Maybe after all Golding just want to represent evil carry by people while the others were made because of a bad situation/system that brings up bad decisions.
The possible reason of the name "Painted Faces and long Hair" on chapter four might be the transition made in the kids the leads to (first) a change of appearance, and later to a change inside themself; Wild and primitive would become the kids doing this painting and letting their hair go wild. The question is Why does Jack do not cut his hair if he have a knife? Jack my represents the one that leads in incite others to don't follow rules, with painted faces and wild hair Jack builds a new chief that is not expected to have rules except his command.
Absorption (page 61): "Roger waited too. At first he had hidden behind a great palm; but Henry’s absorption with the transparencies was so obvious that at last he stood out in full view."
The process or action by which one thing absorbs or is absorbed by another.
Irked (Page 65): " Of all the boys, he was the most at home there; but today, irked by the mention of rescue,..."
Irritate; annoy.
Omission (Page 74): "Jack had meant to leave him in doubt, as an assertion of power; but Piggy by advertising his omission made more cruelty necessary."
The action of excluding or leaving out someone or something

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by Johnson chen on Mon May 29, 2017 8:50 pm

Key Details
Are there any shifts or pattern in the story?
At the beginning of chapter 4 everything was going peaceful and find until mid-day where everything started to go wrong. First Roger would start throwing stones at Henry for fun, second Jack uses Sam and Eric as his slaves since they're very young compared to him, third the friendship that Piggy and Ralph created between each other has kind of disappered when talking about getting work done because all Piggy wants is to build things and get out, while everyone is just chiling and having fun. And then out of nowhere Simon, Ralph, and Piggy find a boat, but kind of at the same time Jack kills his first pig.
Inferences
How do the parts build to a whole?
While Jack and the others are hunting and Ralph and the others are having fun. Ralph, Piggy, and Simon found a boat which means escape, but at the same time Jack finds a pig and kills it. And so Jack is having so much fun hunting he forgot why he was really hunting for and surviving for in the first place. Also Jack's and the choir job was to keep the fire going and watch for any airplanes, but since they weren't there when they had a chance to escape. Piggy starts rambling hus mouth to Jack and saying we had a chance ti escape, but miss due to your hunting. Jack slaps Piggy and breaks his glasses and that's when the clan starts to break. The parts build up later because we'll probably see how the clan will turn out either together still or hunting each other and killing each other by mistake or for fun.
Golding calls this chapter, Painted Faces and Long Hair, because hunting in the forest back in the days people would paint their face to blend in with the environment and had long hair because they were suppose to look like savages. And that's what Jack did to hunt the pig because he really wanted to kill that pig.
Word Study:
Ravenously (pg. 66) Ralph continued to watch the ship, ravenously.
If something or someone is ravenous, he or she is very great; voracious.
A ravenous appetite.
Gyration ( pg. 72) Jack broke out of his gyration and stood facing Ralph.
If someone or something is in a gyration, then he or she or it is in a rapid movement in a circle or spiral; a whirling motion.
The gyrations of the dancers' arms and legs.
Blatant (pg. 58) The glittering sea rose uo, moved apart in planes of blantant impossibility.
If something is blatant, then it is done openly and unashamedly.
Blatant lies.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by _Karlitos :v on Mon May 29, 2017 10:18 pm

*text depending questions
-General understanding
What is the key idea/theme of the text? What is the evidence?
The key idea of this chapter is that apparently most of the boys are adapting to live in the island, have started to don't care about if they can be rescued (Jack and his "hunters" forgot to watch over the fire and instead painted their faces for increasing their chances of hunting a pig), and are forgetting the rules under which they lived before dropping in the island. Evidences in page 59: "They were used now to stomach aches and a sort of chronic diarrhoea." "They cried for their mothers much less often than might have been expected; they were very brown, and filthily dirty. And in page 58: " ...when play was good and life so full that hope was not neccessary and therefore forgotten."
However, the boys still feel unease when tehy do something considered "wrong" under the rules they used to live with and they actually want to be rescued, although they almost lost hope in being rescued. For example,in pg. 60: "Roger led the way straight through the castles, kicking them over, burying the flowers, scattering the chosen stones. Maurice followed, laughing, and added to the destruction. Now, though there was no parent to let fall a heavy hand, Maurice still felt the unease of wrongdoing." Golding explains that Maurice still feels some guiltiness when bullying the littluns, because he was breaking the rules under which he lived before.
Also, in pg. 71: "You go off hunting and let out the fire ,"Ralph said, "There was a ship." "One of the smaller hunters began to wail. The dismal truth was filtering through to everybody." Golding claims that the boys, when realized they lost an opportunity of being rescued, felt guilty and hopeless.
In short, although the boys are becoming wilder and adapting to the island, they still conserve the values from home and want to come back there.
-Inferences
How do the parts build to a whole? In pg. 64, in this passage:" He was the only boy on the island whose hair never seemed to grow. The rest were shockheaded, but Piggy's hair still lay in wisps over his head as though baldness were his natural state and this imperfect covering would soon go, like the velvet on a young stag's antlers." Golding is suggesting that Piggy is the only boy who didn't become wilder like the others. Since the long hair symbolizes the "savageness", and Piggy is the only boy whose hair isn't long. Also, in this passage: " I've been thinking about a clock. We could make a sundial. We could put a stick in the sand, and then..." "The effort to express the mathematical processes involved was too great." Golding is suggesting that Piggy is the only boy who thinks beyond just surviving and finding food in the island, who thinks in making devices such as a clock, which can help the group of boys even more. But nobody takes him seriously.
In pg. 65, in this passage: " Piggy was a bore; his fat, his ass-mar and his matter-of-fact ideas were dull." Golding is saying that the other boys don't like him because of his bright ideas they didn't understand and his physical weakness; he was the opposite of the other boys who were more athletic and less likely to think beyond hunting, surviving and bein rescued.
In pg. 70, in this passage: "He began to cry out, shrilly: You and your blood, Jack Merridew! You and your hunting! We might have gone home." Golding is describing how Piggy critiziced Jack's savageness and obsession with hunting.
And, finally, in pg. 71, in this passage: "This from Piggy, and the wails of agreement from some of the hunters, drove Jack to violence. The bolting look came into his blue eyes. he took a step, and able at last to hit someone, stuck his fist into Piggy's stomach. Piggy's glasses flew off and trinkled on the rocks." Golding is saying that Piggy's reasonable complain bothered Jack. Piggy's reasoning bothers Jack who instead of trying to argue with him, goes straightforwardly to punch him.
In conclusion, these passages say that piggy, who is the only boy who conserves his intelligence and common sense, is despiced and mistreated by the others and especially by the most savages like Jack.In other words, the savages (Jack) despise the intelligence (Piggy).
-Why did Golding named the 4th chapter "Painted faces and long hair"?
Golding named the 4th chapter as "Painted faces and long hair" because long hair and painted faces symbolize savageness. Long hair and painted face symbolize savageness. And in this chapter Golding is highlighting how the boys are becoming more savage.

*Words I didn't know:
-Opalescence (pg.58): "Toward noon, as the floods of light fell more nearly to the perpendicular, the stark colors of the morning were smoothed in pearl and opalescence; and the heat became a blow that they ducked, running to the shade and lying there, perhaps even sleeping." Friendly definition of _opalescence: When something blue or bluish shines or glitters. Sentence with Opalescence: We could see the opalescence of the pearl in her necklace.
-Bellingerence (pg. 60): "Percival was mouse-colored and had not been very attractive even to his mother; Johnny was well built, with fair hair and natural bellingerence." Definition of _bellingerence: When someone is aggressive and hostile. Sentence with bellingerence: She hit it with bellingerence.
-Myriad (pg. 61): "Like a myriad of tiny teeth in a saw, the ward life." Friendly definition of _Myriad: A group of things you can't count because they are too much. Sentence of myriad: I felt overwhelmed amid the myriad of people attending the meeting.




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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by Zhiwei Huang on Mon May 29, 2017 10:56 pm

Key Detail
Are there any shifts or patterns in the writing?
On page 71 it says, "One of the smaller hunters began to wail." This phrase showed a shift in the test because it made the other hunters realized their mistake so it changes everyone's behavior when they realize they missed their chance to go home.
Vocabulary & Text Structure
Why do the authors begin and end when they do?
In the beginning of chapter 4 the kids are all just starting to get used to life on the island so they start to accept their living conditions. By the end of the chapter mot of the kids that went hunting are enjoying the joy and thrills of hunting for animals and it shows their savage sides.

The title of chapter 4 is "Painted Faces and Long Hair" because long hair is to indicate just how long they have been on the island and the painted faces show their wild side and how it makes them want to hunt like the natives.

blatant- to do something openly, unashamed (page 58) "moved apart in planes of blatant impossibility."
belligerence- aggressive, warlike (page 60) "Johnny was well built, with fair hair and a natural belligerence."
Swarthiness-dark (page 62) "... a darker shadow crept beneath the Swarthiness of his skin..."

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Chapter 4 Responses

Post by Megan G on Tue May 30, 2017 6:07 pm

Authors Purpose
Whose story/perspective is not represented?

Roger's perspective is not represented but I think it's a way to get the readers to wonder where he is and why he's so mysterious. Roger seems to have some darkness around him and him not being in the story makes him dark and mysterious.

Inferences
How do the parts build to a whole?

While Ralph and the other's are having fun, and Jack and the others are hunting Ralph, Piggy and Simon find a boat. A boat symbolizes adventure, and exploration. But, while they find that boat, Jack and his hunters finally kill a pig. Jack's 2 jobs are to hunt and to watch the fire. He is having so much fun and he's so excited about killing the pig, the fire goes out and a plane flies over the island. Piggy begins to yell at Jack about how they had a chance to escape, but due to their focus on hunting and not watching the fire, they lost that chance. Jack slaps Piggy and breaks his glasses. This is when, I believe, when their group falls apart. The parts start to build up later on in the book and we'll see how their group falls apart or stays together in the end.

Golding names this chapter "Painted Faces and Long Hair" because it shows how the boys have slipped out of civilized thinking and are falling into savagery. It shows how they conceal their identity behind the paint.

Vocabulary:

blatant (pg. 58) - "The glittering sea rose up, moved apart in planes of blatant impossibility;"
Friendly Vocabulary: (of bad behavior) done openly and unashamedly.

impalpable (pg. 61) - "With impalpable organs of sense they examined this new field.
Friendly Vocabulary: unable to be felt by touch.

taboo (pg. 62) "Here, invisible yet strong, was the taboo of the old life."
Friendly Definition: prohibited or restricted by social custom.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by TheShadow on Tue May 30, 2017 9:22 pm

Inferences:
Whose story/perspective is not represented?
Roger, because in the book so far he is just a servant to Jack as to being kind of like his right hand man, but doesn't really tell us his thoughts and what he would say in the story. Since the story mainly focuses on the characters Ralph, Jack, Piggy, Simon, and sometimes the twins rather than Roger himself. In parts of chapter four he is shown is were given little information about him, "Roger pointed out the unfriendly side." Besides that really the kids who are the citizens have not had their perspective represented.

Vocabulary&Text Structure:
Why may have the author chosen one word over another?
For example, In Chapter 4, page 61, "Piggy was only just visible, bumbling up from the beach." The author chosen the word bumbling over staggering because through the story right now for chapter for the climax of it hasn't started to go up yet. Therefore, the author is using a positive connotation to keep the story at its pace to the climax.

Golding calls the title "Painted Faces and Long Hair", because in this chapter Jack's group which is known as the "Hunter" I have become close to savages now as they live on the island surviving. While they have painted faces and grown out hair which explains that they are slowly becoming uncivilized leading to no rules, but unruly freedom.

Ascent: Page 61, "Just where he steep ascent of the mountain began, he stopped." Meaning to rise in movement or upwards in movement. Example, I ascent in rankings in leadership due to my communication skills.

Rasping: Page 61, "He did desperate violence to naked body among the rasping creepers so that blood..." Meaning to scrape or abrade with a rough instrument. Example, I rasped my knife for a better cutting edge.

Blundered: Page 61, "Ralph blundered on, savaging himself, as the wisp of smoke moved on." Meaning that something is gross, stupid, or careless mistake. Example, I blundered when I had not study for the finals for the second semester.




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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by Cory James on Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:16 pm

General understanding

What is the key theme/ idea of the text? What is the evidence?

The main idea of this chapter is that the boys have been living on the island for a long time and they are learning to adapt. In this adaptation however they are starting to turn into savages. In this chapter Jack focuses on hunting more than getting rescued, and when he finally got what he was hunting for he brags about how he killed it and how much blood there was. On Pg. 59 the text says "They were used now to stomach aches and a sort of chronic diarrhea." This passage shows how they have gotten used to the effects of living on the island.

Inferences

Whose story/perspective is not represented?

I think Rogers perspective is not shown in this chapter, because so far he has been, more or less, going with the crowd. Although there is a small part where he is throwing stones at a little kid, we never really learn what his perspective on the situation is. It is shown in the book that he doesn’t talk much, and he is referred to as the dark boy, but he doesn’t do anything violent up until this chapter.

I think that Golding uses the title “painted faces and long hair” because jack only feels good about himself in a painted face. I think the long hair part represents that they have been on the island so long that their hair has grown out.

Word study

Blundered (pg.64) “he fell silent and blundered away through the bushes.”

Definition: stupid or careless mistake

Sentence: I blundered on a question in the test.

Liberated (pg.64) “Behind which jack hid, liberated from shame and self-consciousness.”

 

 Def: (of a person) showing freedom from social conventions or traditional ideas, especially with regard to sexual roles.

 

Sen: The leader liberated the crowd with his words

 

Belligerence (pg. 60): "Percival was mouse-colored and had not been very attractive even to his mother; Johnny was well built, with fair hair and natural belligerence."

 

Def: aggressive or warlike behavior

 

Sen: The reaction of the crowd ranged from wild enthusiasm to outright belligerence.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by cesar.ca on Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:54 pm

-Why is chapter 4 called "Painted faces and Long Hair"?
---Both of these things (the long hair and the painted faces) are meant to represent wildness and savagery.  The boys have been moving towards savagery and away from civilization as their time on the island has continued.  They will get much worse, of course, but the title of this chapter is meant to show that they are going in that direction. You can see this in this chapter, for example, in the place where Roger destroys the sand castles that the littleuns made and where he throws rocks at Henry (he doesn't hit Henry, showing he's not all the way savage).

-Why is Piggy's hair significant?
--- I noticed a recurring mention of the boys’ hair growing. There are numerous quotes explaining how everybody’s hair grows to become tangled and matted. Yet, Piggy’s hair remains short and clean, which is the way it was when they were first stranded on the island. He is the only one whose hair did not change from the beginning, connoting an importance of the boys’ hair. I believe the significance is to demonstrate how a civilization and its civilians develop, but more importantly, to display how Piggy sticks to his morals while the others become savages.

Key Words:

1. Blatant "The glittering sea rose up, moved apart in planes of blatant impossibility..." (58): totally or offensively obtrusive; very obvious.
2. Taboo "Was the taboo of the old life" (62): excluded or forbidden from use or mention.
3.  Sinewy "Beside the pool his sinewy bodyheld up a mask..." (64): lean and muscular; stringy and tough

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by Broseph:D on Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:29 am

Questions: What is the main idea/theme of the text?
In chapter 4, Golding has finally revealed "the other side" of the boys in Jack's hunting group. When this is said, the boys received the willing of being anything they wish to be, including savage hunting wild animal. No one could say a thing that may stop them because everyone on the island think it's a key to their survival. People like do believe it's unnecessary but none of the other boys even likes him, why would they take his thoughts?
Whose story/perspective is not represented?
The only people who's story/perspective is not told is the followers. The school boys who need a leader to look after them and they could trust to lead them down the right path. Jack's hunters may have a past on how they act in the story when they putted on face paint. This could also be just because now that there are no adults around, they could be as savage as they want to.

The reason why chapter 4 is called "Painted Faces and Long hair" is for this section of the book to represent the chaos that is building up as these group are trying to find someone to rescue them. This is also saying on the groups are turning differently as the days go on without any rules from adults. It is clear that Jack wanted to do something completely different all along and Ralph isn't one of his kind.

Word study:
Dubious: "...and there was a dubious region inhabited by Simon and Robert and Maurice.."(pg.59) hesitating or doubting. Sentence: Alex looked dubious, but complied.
Impalpable: "With impalpable organs of sense they examined this new field."(pg.61) unable to be felt by touch. Sentence: An impalpable ghost was caught.
involuntarily: "Ralph turned and smile involuntarily."(pg.65) without will or conscious control. Sentence: He involuntarily punched everyone in the arm while entering the room.

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Post by Broken Glasses on Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:40 am

Vocab Words
belligerence: a threatening or intimidating look
chastisement: punishment that follows incorrect conduct
Compelled: to force or oblige someone to something

The chapter is called "painted faces and long hair", why is that? I believe that time is taking a toll on their physical being and their mental state. "Fair" hair and clean skin represent civilized individuals and they are being stripped of that with time as a facilitator.

What role do the individual paragraphs, sentences, and words play in the story?
He structures it so that whenever he puts an indent something is changing. There are places that a paragraph will span the whole page and he will give us the setting. But then Ralph or someone will move and a new paragraph is started. The reader catches on and it simplifies everything if I can catch a queue given to me by the reader.

How can the meaning be altered by changing some keywords?
Ralph ends the chapter by calling the group to a "meeting". Why a meeting though? I think that a meeting brings the idea and importance of this meeting down and gives it less value. Why isn't it called an assembly or a conference? I think a meeting doesn't match the importance of these gathering. Possibly He chose that word because it is more likely that a 12yr old would come up with that word.

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Re: Chapter Four Responses

Post by Manthan21 on Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:06 pm


Where does the text leave matters uncertain or unstated?
Nobody really knows if the beast is real or not. some people believe in it but others do not. but they have not actually seen the beast in persons so we do not know if it is real or not.

Who's story is not told or represented?
I think piggy story isn't represented cause he just follows jack around telling him what to do and jack doesn't really listen to piggy when he has a better idea of how to keep everyone one the island safe.

Golding named the chapter the way he did because this is where everyone is going crazy and the paint their faces and maybe because they cant cut their hair


Sinewy "Beside the pool his sinewy body held up a mask..." (64): lean and muscular; stringy and tough
Impalpable: "With impalpable organs of sense they examined this new field."(pg.61) unable to be felt by touch. Sentence: An impalpable ghost was caught
Dubious: "...and there was a dubious region inhabited by Simon and Robert and Maurice.."(pg.59) hesitating or doubting. Sentence: Alex looked dubious, but complied

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